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		<title>Comment on A long period of silence, but definitely not inactivity. by doug</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2010/07/30/a-long-period-of-silence-but-definitely-not-inactivity/#comment-2814</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bill - another bit of shared horizon here, although I sense that the work for both of us is changing. You said

"good to be immersed in a kind of painting where not only the imagery but the very process required long uninterrupted weeks of painting."

That's it - what is important is immersion in the process. For you there is the discipline of a physical journey. I'm searching for another kind of immersion as well, Have spent our time since Orkney and Skye trying to pare away the unnecessary stuff as much as I can. Not easy because I relish studio complications so much. Trying to graft the painting and printmaking directly onto drawing rootstock. Here's the trigger words from my journal : Gather. Concentrate. Simplify. Trust first marks. Speak directly and completely. I'm now on an 6 week run up to a show in Brighton. Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bill - another bit of shared horizon here, although I sense that the work for both of us is changing. You said</p>
<p>&#8220;good to be immersed in a kind of painting where not only the imagery but the very process required long uninterrupted weeks of painting.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it - what is important is immersion in the process. For you there is the discipline of a physical journey. I&#8217;m searching for another kind of immersion as well, Have spent our time since Orkney and Skye trying to pare away the unnecessary stuff as much as I can. Not easy because I relish studio complications so much. Trying to graft the painting and printmaking directly onto drawing rootstock. Here&#8217;s the trigger words from my journal : Gather. Concentrate. Simplify. Trust first marks. Speak directly and completely. I&#8217;m now on an 6 week run up to a show in Brighton. Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A long period of silence, but definitely not inactivity. by Bill Brody</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2010/07/30/a-long-period-of-silence-but-definitely-not-inactivity/#comment-2813</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2010/07/30/a-long-period-of-silence-but-definitely-not-inactivity/#comment-2813</guid>
		<description>Well, Doug I'm back from some time spent on Beaver Creek, an officially recognized wild and scenic river. It was wild enough and scenic enough and remote enough so my head got a bit cleared out. I got some decent work done and some more decent work started that relates strongly with the work we did together on Skye.  But more than the work and the travel, I got to do some solid thinking about the best of my work before I started plein air landscape, when it was intuitive, hermeneutic, self-referential and awe-inspired by the proximity to death. When the formal relationships were so very clever mixing extreme figure/ground reversals with imagery of sex/death/transfiguration/clouds. It felt so good to be immersed in a kind of painting where not only the imagery but the very process required long uninterrupted weeks of painting. Doing plein air painting on a large scale in the wilderness is somehow like that, being so in the moment, so contingent on the now. In both cases I was very into the work and very unmindful of the "art". When I was griping about doing what I was supposed to do, I as complaining about the urging to do modestly scaled landscape images with clean and clear colors; with little explicit sub-liminal nudity and sexuality. I don't enjoy the vapid much and when I am under pressure I have the strong tendency to squirt off in a different direction like a pinched watermelon seed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Doug I&#8217;m back from some time spent on Beaver Creek, an officially recognized wild and scenic river. It was wild enough and scenic enough and remote enough so my head got a bit cleared out. I got some decent work done and some more decent work started that relates strongly with the work we did together on Skye.  But more than the work and the travel, I got to do some solid thinking about the best of my work before I started plein air landscape, when it was intuitive, hermeneutic, self-referential and awe-inspired by the proximity to death. When the formal relationships were so very clever mixing extreme figure/ground reversals with imagery of sex/death/transfiguration/clouds. It felt so good to be immersed in a kind of painting where not only the imagery but the very process required long uninterrupted weeks of painting. Doing plein air painting on a large scale in the wilderness is somehow like that, being so in the moment, so contingent on the now. In both cases I was very into the work and very unmindful of the &#8220;art&#8221;. When I was griping about doing what I was supposed to do, I as complaining about the urging to do modestly scaled landscape images with clean and clear colors; with little explicit sub-liminal nudity and sexuality. I don&#8217;t enjoy the vapid much and when I am under pressure I have the strong tendency to squirt off in a different direction like a pinched watermelon seed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shared Horizons : six days camping by Loch Coruisk by Maddy</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/09/15/shared-horizons-six-days-camping-by-loch-coruisk/#comment-2632</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/09/15/shared-horizons-six-days-camping-by-loch-coruisk/#comment-2632</guid>
		<description>Hi Doug,
Loved looking at your work in Orkney.  It really brings back memories for me as I am a Scottish lass from Ross-shire in the Highlands, not quite as far up as Orkney, but from my childhood I can associate with the terraine and those midgies!!!  Will try my best to come and see your exhibition as without question the Scottish landscape and dramatic weather is responsible for my love of painting today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doug,<br />
Loved looking at your work in Orkney.  It really brings back memories for me as I am a Scottish lass from Ross-shire in the Highlands, not quite as far up as Orkney, but from my childhood I can associate with the terraine and those midgies!!!  Will try my best to come and see your exhibition as without question the Scottish landscape and dramatic weather is responsible for my love of painting today.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shared Horizons : six days camping by Loch Coruisk by doug</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/09/15/shared-horizons-six-days-camping-by-loch-coruisk/#comment-2448</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/09/15/shared-horizons-six-days-camping-by-loch-coruisk/#comment-2448</guid>
		<description>Dear Eric - great timing. I'm going into "clear out head and tidy studio" mode in preparation to starting the bigger studio based paintings from the Orkney and Skye work. Will be posting progress if and when on the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Eric - great timing. I&#8217;m going into &#8220;clear out head and tidy studio&#8221; mode in preparation to starting the bigger studio based paintings from the Orkney and Skye work. Will be posting progress if and when on the blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shared Horizons : six days camping by Loch Coruisk by eric clubley</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/09/15/shared-horizons-six-days-camping-by-loch-coruisk/#comment-2445</link>
		<dc:creator>eric clubley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born, as you know, in this part of the world and it is not easy to put words to it; well done. 'Electric smell of kelp' took me back there.

Great experience with school kids - my aunt went to school there. I had a similar experince in Kyle of Lochalsh primary school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born, as you know, in this part of the world and it is not easy to put words to it; well done. &#8216;Electric smell of kelp&#8217; took me back there.</p>
<p>Great experience with school kids - my aunt went to school there. I had a similar experince in Kyle of Lochalsh primary school.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shared horizons : (Mostly) back from Orkney. by doug</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/09/03/shared-horizons-mostly-back-from-orkney/#comment-2268</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/09/03/shared-horizons-mostly-back-from-orkney/#comment-2268</guid>
		<description>I got a mail from my friend Ishbel, who was born in Orkney. She said "“uncompromising and welcoming”… ??? yup. you got it, doug"

She has such a fierce pride in her place. Somewhat like that poem by George Mackay Brown - a seemingly trivial list of events joined at the end by a keen and passionate sense of place and presence. He made a day like any other, into a memorial for his father. These are entirely quiet and private activities, and even though Stromness had many visitors when I was there it was still entirely concerned with it's own quiet and private activities. I liked that place and would like to go back for longer (with a warmer sleeping bag). 

This is from Hamnavoe by Geroge Mackay Brown

And because under equalities sun,
All things wear now to a common soiling,
In the fire of images
Gladly I put my hand
To save that day for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a mail from my friend Ishbel, who was born in Orkney. She said &#8220;“uncompromising and welcoming”… ??? yup. you got it, doug&#8221;</p>
<p>She has such a fierce pride in her place. Somewhat like that poem by George Mackay Brown - a seemingly trivial list of events joined at the end by a keen and passionate sense of place and presence. He made a day like any other, into a memorial for his father. These are entirely quiet and private activities, and even though Stromness had many visitors when I was there it was still entirely concerned with it&#8217;s own quiet and private activities. I liked that place and would like to go back for longer (with a warmer sleeping bag). </p>
<p>This is from Hamnavoe by Geroge Mackay Brown</p>
<p>And because under equalities sun,<br />
All things wear now to a common soiling,<br />
In the fire of images<br />
Gladly I put my hand<br />
To save that day for him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shared horizons : (Mostly) back from Orkney. by Ish</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/09/03/shared-horizons-mostly-back-from-orkney/#comment-2223</link>
		<dc:creator>Ish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"uncompromising and welcoming"... ??? yup. you got it, doug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;uncompromising and welcoming&#8221;&#8230; ??? yup. you got it, doug.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shared horizons : (Mostly) back from Orkney. by Nigel and Kathy Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/09/03/shared-horizons-mostly-back-from-orkney/#comment-2100</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel and Kathy Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/09/03/shared-horizons-mostly-back-from-orkney/#comment-2100</guid>
		<description>Hello! The weather forecast sounds more settled in the coming days so we hope you are getting lots of ideal painting days. We've really enjoyed seeing your delightful artwork along with your illuminating comments about your thought processes. The whole presentation of your blog is really colourful and appealing and the text sections are entertaining. It's interesting to compare your perceptions of Orkney to ours but we certainly all agree that it's a welcoming place. Nigel was really fascinated by the wireless museum too. With best wishes,
Nigel and Kathy
Point of Ness campsite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! The weather forecast sounds more settled in the coming days so we hope you are getting lots of ideal painting days. We&#8217;ve really enjoyed seeing your delightful artwork along with your illuminating comments about your thought processes. The whole presentation of your blog is really colourful and appealing and the text sections are entertaining. It&#8217;s interesting to compare your perceptions of Orkney to ours but we certainly all agree that it&#8217;s a welcoming place. Nigel was really fascinated by the wireless museum too. With best wishes,<br />
Nigel and Kathy<br />
Point of Ness campsite</p>
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		<title>Comment on Above the shared horizon : Mersea Island cloud studies by doug</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1919</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1919</guid>
		<description>Me too - total immersion in a place - the best way to make work ! As for models of clouds - I've always sensed a relationship between hand knowledge that is 3D (sculpt) and hand knowledge that is 2D (draw/paint). So much of the drawing I really admire is done by sculptors - Calder, Giacometti, Moore, Tony Cragg and Michaelangelo of course. Drawing has to be based on holding and not just touching, reaching round and behind the subject. Having said that I was told that Gainsborough used 3D models, for his landscapes particularly favouring broccoli for the trees. That clarified one of the things that always pissed me off about his polite landscapes - his trees always look like broccoli. 

I guess I assumed that landscape would be a good subject because the model is cheap, sits still and doesn't criticize after a bad days work. That turned out to be especially wrong in Alaska where the hard landscape is also an earthquake zone. I couldn't believe a landscape so big could be so fluid. The more I worked there the more I remembered that it's all in flux : boulders, clouds, grass. mountains ..  That fluidity is it, really. The landscape's timeline is no less violent and unpredictable than ours, it just takes longer. Somebody told me that the Cuillins are among the oldest surface rocks in the world - meeting the volatile weather from the second biggest ocean in the world. Alchemy !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too - total immersion in a place - the best way to make work ! As for models of clouds - I&#8217;ve always sensed a relationship between hand knowledge that is 3D (sculpt) and hand knowledge that is 2D (draw/paint). So much of the drawing I really admire is done by sculptors - Calder, Giacometti, Moore, Tony Cragg and Michaelangelo of course. Drawing has to be based on holding and not just touching, reaching round and behind the subject. Having said that I was told that Gainsborough used 3D models, for his landscapes particularly favouring broccoli for the trees. That clarified one of the things that always pissed me off about his polite landscapes - his trees always look like broccoli. </p>
<p>I guess I assumed that landscape would be a good subject because the model is cheap, sits still and doesn&#8217;t criticize after a bad days work. That turned out to be especially wrong in Alaska where the hard landscape is also an earthquake zone. I couldn&#8217;t believe a landscape so big could be so fluid. The more I worked there the more I remembered that it&#8217;s all in flux : boulders, clouds, grass. mountains ..  That fluidity is it, really. The landscape&#8217;s timeline is no less violent and unpredictable than ours, it just takes longer. Somebody told me that the Cuillins are among the oldest surface rocks in the world - meeting the volatile weather from the second biggest ocean in the world. Alchemy !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Above the shared horizon : Mersea Island cloud studies by Bill Brody</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1918</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1918</guid>
		<description>The comment about clouds looking like boulders reminds me of T. H. Benton's practice of making clay models of everything, clouds included preparatory to his monumental paintings.

I can't wait to see/draw clouds streaming/boiling/roiling through the Cullins...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment about clouds looking like boulders reminds me of T. H. Benton&#8217;s practice of making clay models of everything, clouds included preparatory to his monumental paintings.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see/draw clouds streaming/boiling/roiling through the Cullins&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Above the shared horizon : Mersea Island cloud studies by Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1896</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1896</guid>
		<description>Doug - I've just realised one of the reasons why your drawing make such a connection with me. I can see it in the bottom of the drawings above and in the work you did at Pointe du Hoc. They remind me of Japanese calligraphy. As you know, in calligraphy, every mark carries significance and is considered on its own merits: at the same time, there is a narrative flow through the marks - and I don't mean the narrative conveyed by the language but a narrative of the marks themselves.

Drawing is your communication medium: maybe it's your form of writing. You were the one who opened my eyes to how a drawing reveals its own timeline.

There's also a connection in the way Japanese calligraphy flows down a column or panel, much as your marks flow in a narrative way across a similarly proportioned space. And the calligraphy masters do that thing of practising their marks so as to internalise them, acquiring a skill so that they can forget it and focus on the work itself.

When making calligraphy with a brush, the classic technique is t keep the wrist rigid and the brush vertical, making all the movement from the elbow and shoulder, much as certain southpawed people I know write.

Anyway, just an observation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug - I&#8217;ve just realised one of the reasons why your drawing make such a connection with me. I can see it in the bottom of the drawings above and in the work you did at Pointe du Hoc. They remind me of Japanese calligraphy. As you know, in calligraphy, every mark carries significance and is considered on its own merits: at the same time, there is a narrative flow through the marks - and I don&#8217;t mean the narrative conveyed by the language but a narrative of the marks themselves.</p>
<p>Drawing is your communication medium: maybe it&#8217;s your form of writing. You were the one who opened my eyes to how a drawing reveals its own timeline.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a connection in the way Japanese calligraphy flows down a column or panel, much as your marks flow in a narrative way across a similarly proportioned space. And the calligraphy masters do that thing of practising their marks so as to internalise them, acquiring a skill so that they can forget it and focus on the work itself.</p>
<p>When making calligraphy with a brush, the classic technique is t keep the wrist rigid and the brush vertical, making all the movement from the elbow and shoulder, much as certain southpawed people I know write.</p>
<p>Anyway, just an observation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Above the shared horizon : Mersea Island cloud studies by doug</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1873</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 09:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1873</guid>
		<description>Hi Diane - thanks very much for the post ! I checked your blog too, looks like you were having fun with watery paynes grey cerulean blue. Words and illustration is what got me started - my story books as a kid. Wind in the Willows, early copies of Mad magazine, Arthur Rackham .. 

I really will sort out how to put everybody's links onto my page but for now it's head down in the studio to finish a portrait I'm putting in for the Threadneedle prize. So that's my day planned then  - staring onto the middle distance and talking to myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Diane - thanks very much for the post ! I checked your blog too, looks like you were having fun with watery paynes grey cerulean blue. Words and illustration is what got me started - my story books as a kid. Wind in the Willows, early copies of Mad magazine, Arthur Rackham .. </p>
<p>I really will sort out how to put everybody&#8217;s links onto my page but for now it&#8217;s head down in the studio to finish a portrait I&#8217;m putting in for the Threadneedle prize. So that&#8217;s my day planned then  - staring onto the middle distance and talking to myself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Above the shared horizon : Mersea Island cloud studies by dinahmow</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1872</link>
		<dc:creator>dinahmow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 09:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, first I liked the sketches, then my eye caught "Charlie Parker" and that was that!
Yes, I do like edgy sketches. In fact, I most often use a fibre pen with water colour "slosh" but them I'm not an artist. More of a wordsmith who plays with paint. (and a printmaker when time allows.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, first I liked the sketches, then my eye caught &#8220;Charlie Parker&#8221; and that was that!<br />
Yes, I do like edgy sketches. In fact, I most often use a fibre pen with water colour &#8220;slosh&#8221; but them I&#8217;m not an artist. More of a wordsmith who plays with paint. (and a printmaker when time allows.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Above the shared horizon : Mersea Island cloud studies by doug</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1871</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1871</guid>
		<description>Dear Vivien - thank you very much for the interesting links, which I've tried to make more prominent but instead seem to have messed up the formatting completely. Somehow I seem to be rather to good at breaking the internet .. I'll spend some time over the weekend trying to tidy it up and make the links easier for people to click through. Good to be hooked up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Vivien - thank you very much for the interesting links, which I&#8217;ve tried to make more prominent but instead seem to have messed up the formatting completely. Somehow I seem to be rather to good at breaking the internet .. I&#8217;ll spend some time over the weekend trying to tidy it up and make the links easier for people to click through. Good to be hooked up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Above the shared horizon : Mersea Island cloud studies by doug</title>
		<link>http://www.signapse.co.uk/2009/05/27/mersea-island-cloud-studies/#comment-1870</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bill - good to hear from you : "&lt;b&gt;Language and cognition seem to require edges, even when none exist.&lt;/b&gt;" 

Exactly. I find linear drawing both satisfying and frustrating - I love the decisiveness of a hard line. But I feel that lines are meant to be bent, squished and merged. Just as you can hear Charlie Parker running away with a simple block chord tune like Body and Soul and giving it back transformed and magical. Whenever I make a line drawing I wish for the tonal fields that only a brush can give you. Give me a brush and I want to sharpen it all the time .. might try drawing and painting at the same time. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bill - good to hear from you : &#8220;<b>Language and cognition seem to require edges, even when none exist.</b>&#8221; </p>
<p>Exactly. I find linear drawing both satisfying and frustrating - I love the decisiveness of a hard line. But I feel that lines are meant to be bent, squished and merged. Just as you can hear Charlie Parker running away with a simple block chord tune like Body and Soul and giving it back transformed and magical. Whenever I make a line drawing I wish for the tonal fields that only a brush can give you. Give me a brush and I want to sharpen it all the time .. might try drawing and painting at the same time.</p>
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